tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post9059710069240239977..comments2023-10-15T09:13:31.544+01:00Comments on The Gilahi Blog: Unclear On The ConceptsGilahihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05331323175802868796noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-83879126160254718062009-10-07T13:27:33.197+01:002009-10-07T13:27:33.197+01:00J.M. - I can't believe we're having this d...J.M. - I can't believe we're having this discussion here, but again I wonder if I've been doing something wrong all these years. I was taught that the personal pronoun always came last. That is, I would always say "Bilbo and me" and never "me and Bilbo".<br /><br />Bilbo sure is getting a lot of airplay here...Gilahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331323175802868796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-10324286208726341172009-10-07T13:24:16.658+01:002009-10-07T13:24:16.658+01:00G: You're right. I was re-reading and restruct...G: You're right. I was re-reading and restructuring the sentence to say, "I care." Otherwise, using me as the pronoun is correct. That said, it should read, "Nobody but me and Bilbo cares."<br /><br />Ah, grammar.J.M. Tewkesburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13184459165382590897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-27003994155402497032009-10-07T12:40:09.579+01:002009-10-07T12:40:09.579+01:00J.M. - Funny, I was taught that when using "a...J.M. - Funny, I was taught that when using "and" with a personal pronoun, the way to tell which one to use is to leave off the first noun. So if I left off "Bilbo and" in the above sentence, it would read "Nobody except me cares", and "me" would be the correct pronoun. Otherwise, it would read "Nobody except I cares", which is just wrong. Since "nobody" is the subject of the sentence, then "cares" is the proper verb form. Have I been doing that wrong all these years?Gilahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331323175802868796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-26646175093437209332009-10-07T12:08:50.326+01:002009-10-07T12:08:50.326+01:00You wrote: "Nobody except Bilbo and me cares....You wrote: "Nobody except Bilbo and me cares."<br /><br />What you should have written was, "Nobody, except Bilbo and I, cares."<br /><br />Or, better yet, "Except for me and Bilbo, nobody cares."<br /><br />God, don't you hate grammar Nazis? I do. ;-)J.M. Tewkesburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13184459165382590897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-11607775458265358652009-10-06T14:36:05.258+01:002009-10-06T14:36:05.258+01:00Bilbo - If you haven't read it, I strongly rec...Bilbo - If you haven't read it, I strongly recommend <i>Eats, Shoots and Leaves</i>. The author points out how the placement of a comma can make a difference. In the New Testament, Jesus on the cross is talking to one of the thieves. Whether he says, "I say unto you, this day shalt thou be with me in paradise" or says, "I say unto you this day, thou shalt be with me in paradise", makes a HUGE difference and major points of Christian theology can hinge on it. Given that the original Greek didn't have this punctuation, we'll never know for sure.Gilahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331323175802868796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-85949472760040709482009-10-06T12:57:11.975+01:002009-10-06T12:57:11.975+01:00Good observation on the movie treats thing. When ...Good observation on the movie treats thing. When my son and I went to see the new Star Trek movie, by the time some of the big scenes came up I'd drunk so much iced tea from that 55 gallon drum that I had to sneak out to the men's room before I'd die. Next time I'll take a piddle pack along. And your rant on conjunctions is very perceptive, and much more enjoyable than similar rants professionally presented. It reminded me of the time I went to a lecture by the great linguist Noam Chomsky and listened to him hold forth for two hours on the thrilling topic of "each insertion"...how meaning changes depending on where in the sentence we put the word "each." It took me days to get the drool wiped off my chin.<br /><br />vw: realli - how Valley Girls spell "really".Bilbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213505386288233192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-44375785960595518832009-10-05T19:01:20.630+01:002009-10-05T19:01:20.630+01:00Mike - Or maybe the song running through your head...Mike - Or maybe the song running through your head has just clouded your perceptions.Gilahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331323175802868796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3873716083744224675.post-78939810702578014232009-10-05T18:55:59.423+01:002009-10-05T18:55:59.423+01:00I having trouble seeing the difference between and...I having trouble seeing the difference between and and but. I think I may have conjunctivitis. OR I could just have popcorn grease in my eyes.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017192454403363349noreply@blogger.com